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		<title>By: The Professor&#8217;s Notes - Where my thoughts and your eyes (and now ears!) collide &#187; Mis-Information Continues-and Continues to Mislead</title>
		<link>http://theprofessornotes.com/archives/91/comment-page-1#comment-308</link>
		<dc:creator>The Professor&#8217;s Notes - Where my thoughts and your eyes (and now ears!) collide &#187; Mis-Information Continues-and Continues to Mislead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 03:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Regular readers will remember that I have had &#8220;issues&#8221; with the lack of care exercised by my fellow bloggers on the left when it comes to reporting the facts.  In the past, I have challenged the blogging from &#8220;A Liberal Dose&#8221; when the author mis-represented the facts as reported in the stories he cited.  What first drew my attention to that blog was his gross mis-representation of desertions as a &#8220;flood&#8221; following the start of the Iraq war. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Regular readers will remember that I have had &#8220;issues&#8221; with the lack of care exercised by my fellow bloggers on the left when it comes to reporting the facts.  In the past, I have challenged the blogging from &#8220;A Liberal Dose&#8221; when the author mis-represented the facts as reported in the stories he cited.  What first drew my attention to that blog was his gross mis-representation of desertions as a &#8220;flood&#8221; following the start of the Iraq war. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Professor</title>
		<link>http://theprofessornotes.com/archives/91/comment-page-1#comment-142</link>
		<dc:creator>The Professor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 14:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a quick note of correction:  There exist only two uses of the word Stupid in the whole thread.  One was arguing that perhaps our good friend Eric was &quot;actually a conservative make a veiled attempt at making liberals look stupid.&quot;  The other was his stating that &quot;in calling me &#039;stupid&#039;, he threw the first punch.&quot;

Interesting.  Me thinks, ultimately, he made my point (again.)  He didn&#039;t actually read the document, and thus drew erroneous conclusions.

Ah well, and so it goes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick note of correction:  There exist only two uses of the word Stupid in the whole thread.  One was arguing that perhaps our good friend Eric was &#8220;actually a conservative make a veiled attempt at making liberals look stupid.&#8221;  The other was his stating that &#8220;in calling me &#8216;stupid&#8217;, he threw the first punch.&#8221;</p>
<p>Interesting.  Me thinks, ultimately, he made my point (again.)  He didn&#8217;t actually read the document, and thus drew erroneous conclusions.</p>
<p>Ah well, and so it goes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cb</title>
		<link>http://theprofessornotes.com/archives/91/comment-page-1#comment-141</link>
		<dc:creator>Cb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2006 09:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NAP: I, snarkily or otherwise suggested that you did not read the article because if you are reading the stories you link to, you do not seem to understand them. 

As for comments on your blog: they are moderated and I know that comments have been submitted and yet none ever show up. Why? If you do not want to allow comments simply disable them, if you are truly moderating then why are none ever allowed to show up? It seems that you are simply wanting to read what people might comment and never actually engage in discourse by sharing them with the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NAP: I, snarkily or otherwise suggested that you did not read the article because if you are reading the stories you link to, you do not seem to understand them. </p>
<p>As for comments on your blog: they are moderated and I know that comments have been submitted and yet none ever show up. Why? If you do not want to allow comments simply disable them, if you are truly moderating then why are none ever allowed to show up? It seems that you are simply wanting to read what people might comment and never actually engage in discourse by sharing them with the world.</p>
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		<title>By: New American Patriot</title>
		<link>http://theprofessornotes.com/archives/91/comment-page-1#comment-140</link>
		<dc:creator>New American Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 17:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris Brady:

Once again, someone snarkily asserts that I didn&#039;t read the article I referred to. Aside from the insult, Steve Brady&#039;s personal interpretation of the word &quot;flood&quot; has nothing to do with the accuracy of my postings. And, in calling me &quot;stupid&quot;, he threw the first punch.

I have never deliberately hidden comments. Steven Brady&#039;s either actually a liberal making a veiled attempt at making conservatives look like liars, or....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris Brady:</p>
<p>Once again, someone snarkily asserts that I didn&#8217;t read the article I referred to. Aside from the insult, Steve Brady&#8217;s personal interpretation of the word &#8220;flood&#8221; has nothing to do with the accuracy of my postings. And, in calling me &#8220;stupid&#8221;, he threw the first punch.</p>
<p>I have never deliberately hidden comments. Steven Brady&#8217;s either actually a liberal making a veiled attempt at making conservatives look like liars, or&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Cb</title>
		<link>http://theprofessornotes.com/archives/91/comment-page-1#comment-139</link>
		<dc:creator>Cb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 01:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction: That should have read &quot;on the post dated 5/29.&quot; It can be found &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7862280&amp;postID=114894994872600930&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/A&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction: That should have read &#8220;on the post dated 5/29.&#8221; It can be found <a HREF="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7862280&amp;postID=114894994872600930" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Cb</title>
		<link>http://theprofessornotes.com/archives/91/comment-page-1#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator>Cb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 15:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NAP: As the Professor&#039;s brother I will be the first to say that his words can be haughty and potentially offensive. Of course so is Krugman, Dowd, etc. 

That being said, in this comment and in the one on the post dated 4/29 you assert that he does not post &quot;facts&quot; and encourage the students to seek out the information themselves. Yet you have not responded to his clear demonstration that YOU had the facts wrong regarding desertion rates (apparently because you did not check the sources you cite). 

Now, you say, &quot;Furthermore, if someone wants to malign the credibility of a globally-respected news source like the Guardian, the onus is upon HIM to prove them wrong. Did the poster bother to check that out with the Guardian?&quot; 

The point is that the Guardian (which is no more universally respected than the LA Times or the Washington Times, take your pick) did not cite their own sources. THEY as the reporting agency have the obligation to get their sources right. No news agency is infallible, as the NYTimes has shown repeatedly lately (and the LATimes, WashTimes, etc. lest you think i am biased). I regularly read the NYT, WashPost, BBC, etc. When one gets a truly global perspective one begins to realize how parochial and narrow the NYTimes oped really is (including, of course, David Brooks). 

The point here is really this: absolutely we are to check our sources and encourage our students to do so. But you received a poke because you did NOT do that, or did so and then misrepresented the data. I do not care which. And please, do not write this off as one brother protecting another; he doesn&#039;t need my protection. The Prof will attest to my even handed back hand. He gets it now and then too. 

In this instance the Prof was right and you need to do your homework.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NAP: As the Professor&#8217;s brother I will be the first to say that his words can be haughty and potentially offensive. Of course so is Krugman, Dowd, etc. </p>
<p>That being said, in this comment and in the one on the post dated 4/29 you assert that he does not post &#8220;facts&#8221; and encourage the students to seek out the information themselves. Yet you have not responded to his clear demonstration that YOU had the facts wrong regarding desertion rates (apparently because you did not check the sources you cite). </p>
<p>Now, you say, &#8220;Furthermore, if someone wants to malign the credibility of a globally-respected news source like the Guardian, the onus is upon HIM to prove them wrong. Did the poster bother to check that out with the Guardian?&#8221; </p>
<p>The point is that the Guardian (which is no more universally respected than the LA Times or the Washington Times, take your pick) did not cite their own sources. THEY as the reporting agency have the obligation to get their sources right. No news agency is infallible, as the NYTimes has shown repeatedly lately (and the LATimes, WashTimes, etc. lest you think i am biased). I regularly read the NYT, WashPost, BBC, etc. When one gets a truly global perspective one begins to realize how parochial and narrow the NYTimes oped really is (including, of course, David Brooks). </p>
<p>The point here is really this: absolutely we are to check our sources and encourage our students to do so. But you received a poke because you did NOT do that, or did so and then misrepresented the data. I do not care which. And please, do not write this off as one brother protecting another; he doesn&#8217;t need my protection. The Prof will attest to my even handed back hand. He gets it now and then too. </p>
<p>In this instance the Prof was right and you need to do your homework.</p>
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		<title>By: New American Patriot</title>
		<link>http://theprofessornotes.com/archives/91/comment-page-1#comment-137</link>
		<dc:creator>New American Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 23:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Students:

Your &quot;professor&quot; is happy to wax superior about his &quot;clean language&quot; but neglects to point out how incredibly insulting, haughty and superior his own words were, and how they could potentially be much more offensive to someone than cursing.

Furthermore, if someone wants to malign the credibility of a globally-respected news source like the Guardian, the onus is upon HIM to prove them wrong. Did the poster bother to check that out with the Guardian?

Students, watch the words of your professor closely; he may show you convincing-sounding things in class, but he is lying to you.

Don&#039;t take my word (or his) for it; read the stories of Pulitzer-prizewinning authors like Seymour Hersch or Paul Krugman at the New York Times, the International Herald Tribune, or the &quot;Top Censored Stories&quot;. Your eyes will be opened. 

Why did this man choose to use some obscure blogger to prove his points to you? That should strike a warning in your minds.

Read MANY sources and logically deduce where the truth lies. I promise you&#039;ll quickly discover it&#039;s not with the words of your &quot;professor&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Students:</p>
<p>Your &#8220;professor&#8221; is happy to wax superior about his &#8220;clean language&#8221; but neglects to point out how incredibly insulting, haughty and superior his own words were, and how they could potentially be much more offensive to someone than cursing.</p>
<p>Furthermore, if someone wants to malign the credibility of a globally-respected news source like the Guardian, the onus is upon HIM to prove them wrong. Did the poster bother to check that out with the Guardian?</p>
<p>Students, watch the words of your professor closely; he may show you convincing-sounding things in class, but he is lying to you.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t take my word (or his) for it; read the stories of Pulitzer-prizewinning authors like Seymour Hersch or Paul Krugman at the New York Times, the International Herald Tribune, or the &#8220;Top Censored Stories&#8221;. Your eyes will be opened. </p>
<p>Why did this man choose to use some obscure blogger to prove his points to you? That should strike a warning in your minds.</p>
<p>Read MANY sources and logically deduce where the truth lies. I promise you&#8217;ll quickly discover it&#8217;s not with the words of your &#8220;professor&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: TM</title>
		<link>http://theprofessornotes.com/archives/91/comment-page-1#comment-136</link>
		<dc:creator>TM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must say, I&#039;m most impressed with his language.    

BTW, I wonder where the Guardian came up with their figures?  I noticed there was no source for them.  I&#039;m sure the prof would agree that any well written paper would source such important numbers so they could be verified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must say, I&#8217;m most impressed with his language.    </p>
<p>BTW, I wonder where the Guardian came up with their figures?  I noticed there was no source for them.  I&#8217;m sure the prof would agree that any well written paper would source such important numbers so they could be verified.</p>
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		<title>By: ciao~</title>
		<link>http://theprofessornotes.com/archives/91/comment-page-1#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator>ciao~</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2006 20:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tisk tisk... its almost sad that some people sink to those tools of naming calling (of a junoir high child instead of as an adult) as if to make themselves look better.... when in fact, it does the opposite... *rolls eyes ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tisk tisk&#8230; its almost sad that some people sink to those tools of naming calling (of a junoir high child instead of as an adult) as if to make themselves look better&#8230;. when in fact, it does the opposite&#8230; *rolls eyes &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Professor</title>
		<link>http://theprofessornotes.com/archives/91/comment-page-1#comment-134</link>
		<dc:creator>The Professor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2006 17:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm it seems the owner of the &quot;liberal dose&quot; knows how to find my blog.  Perhaps he was searching to see who comments about his blog?

Note a couple things: first, his use of profanity is typical of many students who, when their &quot;work&quot; is criticized for the weak attempt that it is, resort to ad hominems, and second, while he seems to feel it necessary to stifle free speech, I have allowed his comment to not only be posted, but to remain.

One quick question for him:  If a &quot;flood is a flood&quot; why were the military having a GUSHER of desertions then under Clinton in 2000?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm it seems the owner of the &#8220;liberal dose&#8221; knows how to find my blog.  Perhaps he was searching to see who comments about his blog?</p>
<p>Note a couple things: first, his use of profanity is typical of many students who, when their &#8220;work&#8221; is criticized for the weak attempt that it is, resort to ad hominems, and second, while he seems to feel it necessary to stifle free speech, I have allowed his comment to not only be posted, but to remain.</p>
<p>One quick question for him:  If a &#8220;flood is a flood&#8221; why were the military having a GUSHER of desertions then under Clinton in 2000?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://theprofessornotes.com/archives/91/comment-page-1#comment-133</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2006 17:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My, but we&#039;re a smug prick aren&#039;t we? Of course I read it, but you knew I did. Like most rightwing cocksuckers you were just throwing a blind punch. A flood of desertions is a flood of desertions -- more than 9,000 who have deserted since the conflict started in 2003.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/032806I.shtml

I would so kick your holier-than-thou ass if you acted like such a smug little bastard to my face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My, but we&#8217;re a smug prick aren&#8217;t we? Of course I read it, but you knew I did. Like most rightwing cocksuckers you were just throwing a blind punch. A flood of desertions is a flood of desertions &#8212; more than 9,000 who have deserted since the conflict started in 2003.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/032806I.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/032806I.shtml</a></p>
<p>I would so kick your holier-than-thou ass if you acted like such a smug little bastard to my face.</p>
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		<title>By: ciao~</title>
		<link>http://theprofessornotes.com/archives/91/comment-page-1#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>ciao~</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2006 18:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>p.s. Can we get &quot;the other guy&quot; to permanently change his name to that? :)... of course, then it would lead to the question: What would his wife be called? 

lol...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.s. Can we get &#8220;the other guy&#8221; to permanently change his name to that? <img src='http://theprofessornotes.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8230; of course, then it would lead to the question: What would his wife be called? </p>
<p>lol&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ciao~</title>
		<link>http://theprofessornotes.com/archives/91/comment-page-1#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator>ciao~</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2006 18:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol...Are you a frustrated professor?! lol...  *smirk  good students are sooo hard to find.  :)</description>
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